Asked 1 month ago by AstroWanderer775
How can I finalize my node-based three.js shader editor for multiple versions?
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Asked 1 month ago by AstroWanderer775
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I’ve been working on a node-based shader editor for three.js for several years:
https://dusanbosnjak.com/test/nodes3/
I want to solve UX and rendering challenges—like grouping nodes into functions and efficient drawing—but I’m stuck in the experimental phase. The main issue is accommodating differences across three.js versions. I’ve tried targeting all versions so that users with older versions can still export a functioning shader. For example, with MeshBasicMaterial (tested around R129), I compared template differences: some code is in GLSL files, other parts in JS files, and they come in various formats. I normalized these differences, and regardless of the revision, I get a consistent shader template structure on my end.
I’ve also attempted to generalize the uniforms to some extent. MeshBasicMaterial is largely consistent, but newer versions (e.g., R163) include additional properties like transmission. This means the preview/editor might show these extra properties which aren’t available in older versions. My solution could either ignore these extras on export (resulting in a different shader) or adjust the editor to reflect the material’s actual version.
I’m considering further generalizing the uniforms and making the editor work with whatever properties the material has (like transmission), postponing more advanced editor functionalities until this is resolved. My current approach for exporting is very simple: I traverse a graph and list operations without any fancy optimizations. The goal is to see if a string representation is sufficient for all three.js materials.
I’m also curious about the trade-offs with TypeScript. What would a backend using TypeScript look like? Can I generate TypeScript from the GLSL shader, or should I use TypeScript as a data structure? How does this affect the WebGLRenderer, and is it even feasible to target older three.js versions in this context?
TL;DR: I have a functional interface showing previews and node connections, but exporting a useful artifact that works across versions is holding the project back. As three.js evolves, my project risks falling behind. What version cutoff should I target (e.g., 10 versions or 10 months old), and are there strategies to maintain compatibility?
FWIW, here’s the idea in action:
In the end, if you create a node called myInput1
, the output should be:
TYPESCRIPTmyMaterial.myInput1 = 5
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 9 days ago
Your node-based shader editor project is impressive, and I understand the challenges you're facing with cross-version compatibility in Three.js. Let me address your concerns and provide some strategic recommendations.
Three.js evolves rapidly, with material implementations changing between versions. Your approach of normalizing shader templates across versions is sound, but as you've discovered, new properties like transmission in newer versions create compatibility issues.
Rather than trying to support all versions, consider:
For properties that exist in newer versions but not older ones:
TYPESCRIPT// Example approach for handling version differences export function applyMaterial(material, properties) { Object.keys(properties).forEach(key => { if (key in material) { material[key] = properties[key]; } else { console.warn(`Property "${key}" not supported in this Three.js version`); } }); }
This allows your editor to work with all properties while gracefully handling unsupported ones during export.
TypeScript would provide several benefits:
However, generating TypeScript from GLSL is challenging. Instead, consider:
TYPESCRIPTinterface MaterialAdapter { applyShader(material: any, shaderCode: string): void; getSupportedProperties(): string[]; } class R129MaterialAdapter implements MaterialAdapter { // Implementation specific to R129 } class R163MaterialAdapter implements MaterialAdapter { // Implementation specific to R163 }
Your current approach of traversing the graph and generating code without optimization is a good starting point. Consider:
Your project has tremendous potential. By focusing on a reasonable version range and implementing graceful degradation, you can create a tool that remains useful even as Three.js continues to evolve.
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