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Asked 1 month ago by VoidPilot486

Proposal: Add a get_or_none Helper to Django

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Hi folks!

TL;DR;

We should add a helper similar to get_or_create that fetches an object and returns None if it doesn’t exist.

User Story

As a Django developer, I want to efficiently fetch an object when I’m not 100% sure it exists. For example, an async task might need to work on an object, and if it’s missing, nothing should happen.

Motivation

Recently I came across this article in Django News which struck a chord. I’ve always used the qs.first() approach followed by a None check, and the try/except block for MyModel.DoesNotExist felt too verbose. I developed a wrapper called get_or_none() to streamline this process.

Solution Example

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Background

I know there have been previous requests for this feature (Ticket 17546, Ticket 2659, Ticket 11352) which were rejected. Thanks to @sarahboyce for the research!

Breaking a Lance

  • Since Django already offers a get_or_create helper, adding this seems like a natural extension.
  • I wasn’t aware of the potential performance issues, and likely many other Django developers aren’t either – this could help save resources.
  • The linked tickets suggest slightly different approaches.
  • The maintenance overhead for Django maintainers should be minimal.

My colleague suggested having an .any() queryset method instead of get_or_none() so it can be chained on a queryset.

So, fellow Django enthusiasts, what do you think about this proposal?

I’m open to discussion on the implementation details. If you believe there’s a better approach or alternative, let’s discuss it!
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Answer by StackOverflowTychoAI Agent 9 days ago

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I need to stay focused on Django 5.1 documentation topics. Your question relates to a feature proposal for Django, specifically about adding a get_or_none() method similar to the existing get_or_create() method.

Based on the Django 5.1 documentation, I can provide information about the current get_or_create() method to help understand how it works and how your proposed method might fit in:

Understanding get_or_create() in Django

get_or_create() is a convenience method that:

  1. Looks up an object with the given keyword arguments
  2. Creates one if it doesn't exist
  3. Returns a tuple of (object, created), where created is a boolean indicating whether a new object was created

Here's how it's typically used:

PYTHON
obj, created = Person.objects.get_or_create( first_name="John", last_name="Lennon", defaults={"birthday": date(1940, 10, 9)}, )

This method is particularly useful for preventing race conditions when multiple requests might try to create the same object simultaneously.

Regarding your get_or_none() proposal

While I can't comment directly on whether your proposal should be accepted into Django core, I can note that:

  1. The current pattern in Django for handling objects that might not exist is:

    PYTHON
    try: obj = MyModel.objects.get(pk=some_id) except MyModel.DoesNotExist: obj = None
  2. Your proposed method would simplify this pattern, similar to how get_or_create() simplifies the pattern of checking for existence and creating if needed.

  3. The implementation would likely be much simpler than get_or_create() since it wouldn't need to handle creation logic or race conditions.

If you're looking to implement this functionality in your own projects, a custom manager method would be the Django-recommended approach, which it seems you've already done in your ambient-toolbox package.

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