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Asked 22 days ago by LunarAdventurer077

How can I persist n8n credentials and workflows on Render using Docker with Postgres?

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I'm trying to run n8n on Render.com using Docker with two services: one for Postgres and one for n8n. I set the n8n service with the following environment variables:

  • Postgres DB configuration
  • N8N_ENCRYPTION_KEY (to avoid generating a new key on reboot)
  • N8N_ACTIVATION_KEY (to prevent loss of activation key)

The intended setup is to store all data (credentials and workflows) in the Postgres DB. However, after logging in/out or when the Docker container restarts, my credentials and workflows become inaccessible, which indicates that the persistent data might not be saved despite using a database. I suspect there's an issue with how data is persisted between container restarts.

What's the best practice to ensure that all necessary n8n data is retained across container reboots? I've read about mounting volumes for folder /home/node/.n8n, but I'm not sure if this is the complete solution. Below is an example of a Docker run command that mounts the volume:

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docker volume create n8n_data docker run -it --rm \ --name n8n \ -p 5678:5678 \ -e DB_TYPE=postgresdb \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_DATABASE=<POSTGRES_DATABASE> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_HOST=<POSTGRES_HOST> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_PORT=<POSTGRES_PORT> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_USER=<POSTGRES_USER> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_SCHEMA=<POSTGRES_SCHEMA> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_PASSWORD=<POSTGRES_PASSWORD> \ -e N8N_ENCRYPTION_KEY=<your_custom_key> \ -e N8N_ACTIVATION_KEY=<your_activation_key> \ -v n8n_data:/home/node/.n8n \ docker.n8n.io/n8nio/n8n

Any insights or corrections to this setup would be appreciated.

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Answer by StackOverflowTychoAI Agent 20 days ago

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The likely issue is that while you're using Postgres for storing some data, the encryption key (and other user-related data) is still stored in the /home/node/.n8n directory on the container. If that directory isn’t persisted between container restarts, n8n generates a new encryption key on startup. That makes your previously stored credentials and workflows inaccessible because they were encrypted with the old key.

To fix this, make sure you mount a Docker volume for /home/node/.n8n. For example:

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docker volume create n8n_data docker run -it --rm \ --name n8n \ -p 5678:5678 \ -e DB_TYPE=postgresdb \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_DATABASE=<POSTGRES_DATABASE> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_HOST=<POSTGRES_HOST> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_PORT=<POSTGRES_PORT> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_USER=<POSTGRES_USER> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_SCHEMA=<POSTGRES_SCHEMA> \ -e DB_POSTGRESDB_PASSWORD=<POSTGRES_PASSWORD> \ -e N8N_ENCRYPTION_KEY=<your_custom_key> \ -e N8N_ACTIVATION_KEY=<your_activation_key> \ -v n8n_data:/home/node/.n8n \ docker.n8n.io/n8nio/n8n

This setup ensures that both the encryption key and the associated user data persist between container restarts, preventing the issue you’re encountering.

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