Asked 1 month ago by CosmicWatcher904
Why Does n8n's Structured Output Parser Node Only Use a Simplified JSON Schema in LLM Prompts?
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Asked 1 month ago by CosmicWatcher904
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I'm facing an issue in n8n (v1.73.1) with the Structured Output Parser node attached to an LLM Chain node. The full JSON Schema I enter isn’t included in the LLM prompt; instead, only a simplified version (e.g., just the root type as an array) is provided.
The complete JSON Schema entered in the node is as follows:
JSON{ "$schema": "https://json-schema.org/draft/2020-12/schema", "type": "array", "items": { "$ref": "#/$defs/invoice" }, "$defs": { "address": { "type": "object", "properties": { "address1": { "type": "string" }, "address2": { "type": "string" }, "city": { "type": "string" }, "state": { "type": "string" }, "zipcode": { "type": "string" } } }, "lineItem": { "type": "object", "properties": { "partNumber": { "type": "string" }, "description": { "type": "string" }, "price": { "type": "number" }, "discount": { "type": "number" }, "quantity": { "type": "number" } } }, "invoice": { "type": "object", "properties": { "invoiceDate": { "type": "string", "format": "date" }, "invoiceNumber": { "type": "string" }, "purchaseOrderNumber": { "type": "string" }, "supplierName": { "type": "string" }, "supplierTaxId": { "type": "string" }, "supplierAddress": { "$ref": "#/$defs/address" }, "customerName": { "type": "string" }, "customerTaxId": { "type": "string" }, "customerAddress": { "$ref": "#/$defs/address" }, "lineItems": { "type": "array", "items": { "$ref": "#/$defs/lineItem" } }, "subtotal": { "type": "number" }, "tax": { "type": "number" }, "fees": { "type": "number" }, "total": { "type": "number" } }, "required": [ "invoiceNumber", "purchaseOrderNumber" ] } } }
The LLM Chain node, however, logs a much simpler schema in its prompt:
PLAINTEXTYour output will be parsed and type-checked according to the provided schema instance, so make sure all fields in your output match the schema exactly and there are no trailing commas! Here is the JSON Schema instance your output must adhere to. Include the enclosing markdown codeblock: {"type":"object","properties":{"output":{"type":"array"}},"additionalProperties":false,"$schema":"http://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema#"}
This leads me to several questions:
Are there inherent limitations on the JSON Schema features supported (such as definitions and $ref) in this context? It appears that only basic type information is extracted.
Should the JSON Schema represent the entire LLM output (an array of invoice objects) even if my intent is to define a single invoice schema? I noticed that when I define a schema for a single invoice, the output instead returns multiple fragmented pieces from one invoice.
Is there more current documentation or guidance on configuring the schema? The current docs for the Structured Output Parser node don’t match the current UI (v1.73.1), which now only offers JSON Schema definition.
Additional info on my setup:
Any clarification or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 20 days ago
Below is an explanation addressing your concerns based on the current capabilities and documentation of the Structured Output Parser node in n8n:
The Structured Output Parser node only makes use of a simplified subset of the JSON Schema definition for the purpose of instructing the LLM. Although the JSON Schema specification supports advanced features like definitions and $ref usages, the node’s integration only extracts the basic information from your provided schema (in your case, the output type as an array). This is why the prompt ends up with a simplified schema structure rather than the full schema you entered.
The JSON schema you define in the node is intended to describe the overall structure of the LLM output. Under the hood, n8n internally wraps this into an object with an “output” property that holds the schema (which is why you see a prompt expecting an object with a property "output" of type array). Unfortunately, there isn’t currently a way to customize these instructions. This design means:
In summary, the current implementation is geared toward wrapping your defined schema in an “output” property as an array, so there is no built-in customization to alter that behavior.
It appears that parts of the documentation (such as the ability to choose between generating and defining a schema) haven’t been updated to reflect the current UI version (v1.73.1). At the moment, the only option available in the UI is to define the schema manually using the JSONSchema format.
For more up-to-date information or guidance, consider the following:
This is the most current information available regarding how the Structured Output Parser node currently functions.
If you have further questions on how to work around these limitations or need assistance with specific configurations, feel free to ask!
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