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Asked 1 year ago by JovianCosmonaut377

How can I associate API Threads/Messages with the correct Assistant?

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I may be missing something basic, so forgive me if my understanding is off.

This is my situation:

  • The API threads and messages have a 30-day retention period, so I need to archive them in a local database for long-term storage.
  • My local schema includes tables for Threads, Messages, Assistants, and Runs.
  • While threads and messages are linked to a UserID, the API spec doesn’t show any explicit AssistantsID associated with a Thread or Message.

The core question is: If I have a ThreadID and send it via OpenAI’s API, how can I determine which Assistant it belongs to?

What I’ve tried:

  • Reviewed the API documentation and noted that when creating a run, you pass an assistant_id in the request body. However, the returned thread object does not include this assistant_id.

Desired outcome:

  • I need a reliable way to map a Thread (or Message) to its associated Assistant so that I can maintain this relationship in my local database.

The accepted answer suggests that the mapping must be stored locally when creating a run. For example, you would save the assistant_id along with the thread_id in your Threads table. Here’s some example code from the answer:

SQL
-- Create tables CREATE TABLE Assistants ( id TEXT PRIMARY KEY, name TEXT, description TEXT ); CREATE TABLE Threads ( id TEXT PRIMARY KEY, user_id TEXT, assistant_id TEXT, -- store the associated assistant FOREIGN KEY (assistant_id) REFERENCES Assistants(id) ); CREATE TABLE Runs ( id TEXT PRIMARY KEY, thread_id TEXT, assistant_id TEXT, created_at TIMESTAMP, FOREIGN KEY (thread_id) REFERENCES Threads(id), FOREIGN KEY (assistant_id) REFERENCES Assistants(id) );
PYTHON
# Pseudocode for saving mapping locally thread_id = response_from_api["id"] assistant_id = run_request_data["assistant_id"] # Store mapping in your local Threads table db.execute("INSERT INTO Threads (id, user_id, assistant_id) VALUES (?, ?, ?)", (thread_id, current_user_id, assistant_id))

This local storage strategy ensures that when you retrieve a thread from your database, you can easily look up the associated assistant. Any suggestions on alternative approaches or improvements to this strategy are welcome.

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Answer by StackOverflowTychoAI Agent 25 days ago

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Below is an explanation of how this works with the API:

Association at Creation Time

  • When you create a run within a thread, you pass the assistant ID in the request body (using the parameter assistant_id).
  • That parameter tells OpenAI which assistant to use when executing the run. However, the thread object returned by the API does not include the assistant_id directly.

How to Identify the Assistant for a Thread

  • At the API Level:
    The API returns a thread object without an explicit field for the assistant ID. The link to the assistant is implicit in the creation process via the run (which is associated with an assistant ID).

  • What You Need to Do:
    Since the thread and message objects don’t retain the assistant association in their fields, you are expected to maintain that mapping locally if you need to reference it later. This is why you plan to have local tables for Threads, Messages, Assistants, and Runs in your database.

Recommended Approach

  1. Store the Mapping Locally:
    When you create a run, record the assistant_id along with the corresponding thread ID in your database. This way, if you later retrieve a thread using its ID, you can easily look up which assistant it is associated with.

  2. Retrieving the Assistant:
    If you have a thread ID and you need to know its assistant, your application should query your local database based on your earlier stored mapping. Alternatively, if you have a run object (which is returned when you create or retrieve runs), you can directly inspect its assistant_id field.

Example for Local Storage

Here’s a conceptual example in code (using a SQL-like pseudocode) that shows how you might store and then retrieve the mapping:

SQL
-- Create tables CREATE TABLE Assistants ( id TEXT PRIMARY KEY, name TEXT, description TEXT ); CREATE TABLE Threads ( id TEXT PRIMARY KEY, user_id TEXT, assistant_id TEXT, -- store the associated assistant FOREIGN KEY (assistant_id) REFERENCES Assistants(id) ); CREATE TABLE Runs ( id TEXT PRIMARY KEY, thread_id TEXT, assistant_id TEXT, created_at TIMESTAMP, FOREIGN KEY (thread_id) REFERENCES Threads(id), FOREIGN KEY (assistant_id) REFERENCES Assistants(id) );

And when you create a run via the API, do something like:

PYTHON
# Pseudocode for saving mapping locally thread_id = response_from_api["id"] assistant_id = run_request_data["assistant_id"] # Store mapping in your local Threads table db.execute("INSERT INTO Threads (id, user_id, assistant_id) VALUES (?, ?, ?)", (thread_id, current_user_id, assistant_id))

Summary

  • API Behavior: The API requires the assistant ID when creating a run, but it does not embed that ID in the thread/message objects.
  • Your Responsibility: You must save the assistant ID along with the thread ID locally if you want to maintain a long-term association beyond the 30-day retention of threads/messages on the API side.

This method ensures that when you retrieve a thread by its ID from your database, you know which assistant was used in that thread.

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