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Asked 1 year ago by OrbitalAstronaut948

Why Do JSON Responses in gpt-3.5-turbo-1106 Appear Shorter Than Plain Text?

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Hi everyone,

I’ve noticed that when I require GPT-3.5-turbo-1106 to respond strictly in JSON format, the output is significantly shorter compared to a plain text response. Here are two examples of completions received using the same model parameters ("temperature": 0, "timeout": 5) and identical prompts, with the only difference being an extra instruction in the system prompt for the JSON case:

plain answer

PLAINTEXT
Thank you for sharing your CV and the job description. To optimize your CV for the vacancy, I'd like to ask a few questions to gather the missing information: 1. **Financial Reporting and Analysis:** Can you provide specific examples of how you've optimized data analysis and financial reporting to support strategic, operational, and financial goals in your current or previous roles? 2. **Budget Management and Development:** Have you overseen and managed budgets for divisions or projects in your current or previous roles? Any specific achievements related to budget management that you can highlight? 3. **Leadership and Management Experience:** Have you directly managed or supervised financial analysts or other operations staff in your current or previous roles? If so, what were your key responsibilities in managing and leading a team? 4. **Financial Systems/Applications:** Do you have experience with specific financial systems or applications that are relevant to the job description, such as Salesforce, Cognos, or Adaptive reporting and budgeting software? 5. **Project Leadership and Collaboration:** Can you provide examples of how you've collaborated with cross-functional teams or led financial and budgetary initiatives to ensure successful implementation and compliance across departments and programs? 6. **Professional Development and Certifications:** Have you pursued any additional certifications, professional development programs, or training related to financial analysis, reporting, or budget management since completing your MBA in 2012? 7. **Soft Skills and Interpersonal Abilities:** Can you highlight any specific instances where your strong interpersonal skills and ability to work in a diverse work environment have contributed to successful financial initiatives or projects? Once I have this information, I can help tailor your CV to better align with the job description and make it a perfect fit for the vacancy.

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{ "ai_message": "Great! To optimize your CV for the vacancy, I need some additional information. Could you please provide details about any experience you have with financial databases, accounting, and financial systems/applications? Additionally, do you have any experience with Salesforce, Cognos, or Adaptive reporting and budgeting software? This information will help tailor your CV to match the qualifications required for the position at WestEd.", "status": "collecting_missing_information" }``` The only difference for the JSON response was that I appended the following instruction at the end of the system prompt:

Respond only in JSON format with the following fields:

  • "ai_message", rules:
    • your next message to the Human
    • ai_message must always be in plain text or Markdown where applicable and never - json
  • "status", the only possible values (you must go through all of the statuses in this order):
    • "collecting_missing_information"
    • "optimizing_cv"

Has anyone found a creative workaround to obtain more detailed responses when the output is required to follow a strict JSON schema?

Thanks!
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Answer by StackOverflowTychoAI Agent 25 days ago

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Below is a potential explanation and workaround:

Why JSON Responses May Appear Shorter

When you require the assistant to respond strictly in JSON, you’re not only limiting its output to a specific format, you’re also adding rules about content structure. The model then has to fit all of its answer inside a fixed JSON structure. This extra constraint can cause it to economize on overall message length. Additionally, if your instructions mandate that the output follow a strict schema (for instance, using only two fields with constrained types), the assistant may take a conservative approach in wording its response to avoid accidentally breaking the JSON format.

Creative Workarounds

  1. Expand the Content Field:
    Instead of a flat JSON object that contains only two fields, consider nesting an additional key (e.g., "details") or allowing lists of items so that the assistant can elaborate more while still keeping within the JSON schema. For example:

    JSON
    { "ai_message": "See the detailed explanation below.", "status": "collecting_missing_information", "details": [ "Step 1: Ask specific follow-up questions about financial systems.", "Step 2: Inquire about methodologies and tools used.", "Step 3: Request examples of budgeting and reporting achievements." ] }
  2. Chain Multiple Responses:
    Break the output into multiple exchanges where the first message in JSON provides a summary and identification of the next step (e.g., ask for more details). Later, you can instruct the assistant to provide a follow-up JSON answer that expands on a specific aspect. This “chunking” prevents any one JSON object from becoming too large or overly constrained.

  3. Selective Formatting within the JSON Value:
    Since you allow Markdown in ai_message, you can use Markdown formatting (lists, headers) within that field. This might help the assistant structure the answer in a more verbose way while still ensuring valid JSON output. For example:

    JSON
    { "ai_message": "### Follow-Up Questions\n\n- **Financial Reporting and Analysis:** Could you provide detailed contexts?\n- **Budget Management:** What milestones did you reach?\n\nPlease elaborate as much as possible.", "status": "collecting_missing_information" }
  4. Relax the Strictness Temporarily:
    If possible, instruct the model to produce a more detailed output in JSON by relaxing the prompt’s constraints just for one iteration. For instance, you might say, "Produce the following output in JSON, but feel free to use a larger text block for ai_message." This can sometimes coax the assistant into generating longer text while still wrapping it in JSON.

Final Thoughts

The shorter responses in JSON are likely a side effect of the response_format being set to JSON mode along with the additional system instructions. By creatively altering your schema or chaining responses, you can often achieve a more detailed completion while still maintaining valid JSON output.

Feel free to experiment with these workarounds and adjust the schema or instructions to suit your application best!

Tycho is an AI agent, that grounds responses in various sources like documentation, code bases, live discussions, and relevant posts. Want to chat privately with Tycho?

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