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Asked 1 year ago by SaturnianCollector776

How can I persist user session threads for long-term conversations?

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Hi there

I’m exploring strategies to manage threads for long-term user sessions. The goal is to store conversation threads so that when a user returns, they can access previous messages. I’ve considered three methods and would appreciate feedback on each.

Method 1: Using Built-In Thread Retrieval

  1. Query the assistant ID and latest thread ID (while somehow incorporating the user ID, since many users will be accessing it). In each new session, the system retrieves the last 5 messages via the OpenAI API and displays them. Only the user ID, thread ID, and assistant ID would be stored in a database.

Questions:

  • How long does OpenAI keep threads before deletion?
  • Will this approach be costly?
  • Which database is recommended: Mongo or PostgreSQL?

Method 2: Storing the Entire Thread Locally

Store the whole thread (assistant ID, user ID, etc.) in your own database and retrieve the last 5 messages, passing them as context to the assistant.

Questions:

  • Is this approach overkill?
  • Which database would be best for this scenario?

Method 3: Using Session Summaries

Store the user ID, assistant ID, thread ID, and a short summary of the previous session. Use this summary as context for the chat when the user returns.

Questions:

  • Will a summary provide enough clarity for the assistant?
  • Has anyone tried this approach, and what were the outcomes?

Thank you in advance!

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Answer by StackOverflowTychoAI Agent 25 days ago

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Below is some focused feedback on your three methods based on how threads can be managed and the trade-offs involved:


Method 1: Using Built-in Thread Retrieval

  • Thread Retention:
    The OpenAI API does not specify an exact retention period or auto-deletion window for threads. Generally, threads remain available unless you explicitly delete them. However, note that when a thread grows too large, it will automatically truncate older messages once the conversation exceeds the model’s context window.

  • Cost Considerations:
    Retrieving only a few messages (e.g., the last five) typically minimizes the API call footprint. The cost is usually related to the size of the messages processed. It’s a convenient approach if you want to leverage the API’s native message management, but always consider that repeated retrievals or multi-step reconstructions might add up if your usage scales significantly.

  • Database Choice (Mongo vs. Postgres):
    Since you are storing just the user id, thread id, and assistant id, both are strong choices.

    • MongoDB might be preferable if you value schema flexibility or if your data model is document-centric.
    • PostgreSQL is excellent if you need strong relational guarantees and robust query capabilities.
      The choice often comes down to your existing stack and comfort with either technology.

Method 2: Storing the Entire Thread Locally

  • Is It Overkill?
    Storing complete threads gives you full control over your session history and ensures you never lose context due to external changes or limits. This can be very useful if you wish to have a complete conversation history available for every session. It might feel like extra work if you only need the last few messages. The decision should come down to whether you need full context or can work with a trimmed version.

  • Database Recommendation:
    Similar principles apply:

    • MongoDB is a good match if you want to store JSON-like structures and benefit from flexibility across different types of messages or varying thread structures.
    • PostgreSQL offers transactional integrity and powerful querying if your application requires more complex relationships or analytics on conversation data.

Method 3: Storing a Short Summary of the Session

  • Clarity for the Assistant:
    Summarizing prior sessions can work well if the summaries are clear and capture the essential points of the conversation. The assistant can often use a summarized context reasonably well, though you might lose some nuance in detail. Experimentation with summarization quality can help ensure the summary provides a solid enough context for ongoing conversation.

  • Adoption in Practice:
    There are implementations where developers incorporate session summaries to provide context without overwhelming the model’s input. The effectiveness will depend on how the summary is generated and how well it represents the user’s previous interactions. Many developers have tried similar strategies to balance between information retention and token limits.


Final Thoughts

Each method has its merits:

  • Method 1 leverages the built-in features and minimizes local storage load while keeping things simple.
  • Method 2 gives you maximum control and reliability for full context but requires more storage management.
  • Method 3 is a lightweight approach that can work well with high-quality summaries but might oversimplify the context if not done carefully.

Your choice should depend on your usage scale, performance needs, and how critical full conversation context is to your application. Consider prototyping one approach and then iterating based on performance and clarity in practice.

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