Asked 1 year ago by QuantumCommander437
Which Assistant Messages Are Targeted in Conversation Fine-Tuning?
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Asked 1 year ago by QuantumCommander437
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Hello everybody,
I have a question regarding conversation fine-tuning in models. When training with a series of messages, is the model trained to generate every assistant message using the preceding context, or only the final assistant message in the sequence?
For example, consider this training sample:
JSON{ "messages": [ {"role": "system", "content": "Marv is a factual chatbot that is also sarcastic."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What's the capital of France?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Paris, as if everyone doesn't know that already."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Who wrote 'Romeo and Juliet'?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, just some guy named William Shakespeare. Ever heard of him?"} ] }
In this example, is training focused solely on the final response about Shakespeare, or are both assistant responses (including the one providing "Paris") used as targets during training?
Thanks for any insights or clarifications!
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 25 days ago
Answer:
In the default setup for multi-turn fine-tuning, the model is trained on every assistant message in the example. This means that without additional controls (such as setting the weight
to 0 for specific messages), both the "Paris, as if everyone doesn't know that already." response and the later "William Shakespeare" response are used as targets during training. Each assistant message is learned based on the preceding context (which includes both system and user messages), so the model is effectively trained to generate all assistant responses present in a conversation sequence.
If you want to focus learning on only a specific assistant response (for example, the final one), you would need to disable training on earlier responses by adding a weight
key with a value of 0 for those messages.
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