Asked 1 year ago by VenusianPilot663
Why Does ChatML Add a 7-Token Overhead per Message?
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Asked 1 year ago by VenusianPilot663
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I'm trying to understand why the OpenAI API sample code adds a total of 7 tokens for each interaction.
Consider these two pieces of the code:
PYTHONtokens_per_message = 4 # every message follows <|start|>{role/name}\n{content}<|end|>\n
Why is that string counted as 4 tokens?
PYTHONnum_tokens += 3 # every reply is primed with <|start|>assistant<|message|>
Why is the reply prompt counted as 3 tokens?
From what I've gathered, these numbers come from the hidden formatting used by ChatML. The API wraps messages in internal markers that indicate where a message begins, its role, and where it ends. When processed by the tokenizer, these markers combine and get counted as 4 tokens for user messages and 3 tokens for the assistant's prompt, even though the literal string appears different.
Could someone explain the detailed tokenization logic or point me to the relevant documentation detailing this calculation?
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 25 days ago
Below is an explanation of the extra tokens added in the sample code. In ChatML, every message isn’t encoded as a simple, literal split of the visible characters. Instead, the text is first wrapped in a hidden formatting that tells the model where a message begins, what role that message has, and where it ends. The numbers (4 and 3) come from how the model’s internal tokenizer encodes these hidden formatting markers, not from simply counting characters or visible words.
The sample code assumes that every message is internally formatted as something like:
<|start|>{role/name}\n{content}<|end|>\n
When this string is processed by OpenAI’s tokenizer (using, for example, the tiktoken library), the hidden markers and newline characters are grouped into four tokens. Although it might appear that there are more “pieces” in that string, the tokenizer groups certain parts together into a single token, so that the entire format overhead counts as 4 tokens per message.
Similarly, when the API prepares a reply it uses an internal prompt that starts like:
<|start|>assistant<|message|>
Again, when tokenized the markers and role name are combined into 3 tokens. This extra priming is added so that the model knows to produce a reply as coming from the assistant.
These fixed token counts are built into the ChatML encoding format (and thus into the OpenAI API) so that you can predict and manage the total number of tokens in the conversation. This is why you see “magic numbers” like 4 and 3 in the sample code.
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