Asked 1 year ago by CelestialDiscoverer051
How can I quickly estimate token counts for texts and code without loading the full tiktoken model?
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Asked 1 year ago by CelestialDiscoverer051
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Hi!
I’m looking for a fast way to estimate the token count of a text—especially for scripts, source code, and non-English languages—without having to import a heavy library or load the 1.9MB cl100k_base.tiktoken file. The usual rule of thumb (around 1 token ≈ 0.75 words) only works well for plain English text and falls short when dealing with other languages or code.
I experimented with an approach that assigns an average reciprocal token length to different groups of characters. For example:
spaces that are following a space: 0.081
NORabcdefghilnopqrstuvy and single space : 0.202
CHLMPQSTUVfkmspwx : 0.237
-.ABDEFGIKWY_\r\tz{ü : 0.304
!$&(/;=JX`j\n}ö : 0.416
"#%)\*+56789<>?@Z[\]^|§«äç’ : 0.479
,01234:~Üß and characters > 255 : 0.658
other characters: 0.98
By summing these numbers for every character in a file, the estimate comes reasonably close to the real token count. For instance:
file type | real token count vs. guesstimate
css 123491 vs. 103405
html 232691 vs. 243483
java 671616 vs. 757334
js 838884 vs. 825870
md 60583 vs. 59638
xml 912672 vs. 857563
This method is tailored to my own text and codebase, so I’m curious if anyone has better ideas for a quick guesstimate.
My full implementation—including the estimation function and a less efficient but precise token counter—is available in my token counting script.
PS: Does anyone know how ChatGPT handles Unicode characters that aren’t in the cl100k_base.tiktoken file? I found some unexpected ones in a ChatGPT-generated text.
Best regards,
Hans-Peter
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 25 days ago
Below is some guidance on your questions about fast token estimation and handling Unicode without having to import the full tiktoken model file every time.
For plain English text, many developers use the rule of thumb:
• Approximately 1 token ≈ 4 characters, or equivalently, 1 token ≈ 0.75 words.
However, as you noticed, this breaks down for other languages and for source code. The approach you described—weighting each character based on empirical token averages—is an interesting heuristic tailored to your corpus. There isn’t an “official” lightweight estimator that is both universal and as accurate as tiktoken, because the tokenization process (whether using Byte-Pair Encoding or similar methods) inherently depends on the model’s specific training and vocabulary.
Better ideas?
The recommended (and most accurate) method is still to use OpenAI’s tiktoken library since it exactly replicates how the model tokenizes inputs. If importing and loading a 1.9MB file is a concern in resource-constrained or “quick script” scenarios, you might consider these options:
Preprocessing & Caching:
If you need to process many texts in a short period, preload the tiktoken encoding once per session or cache results between runs, which amortizes the cost of loading the model.
Adjusted Heuristic Based on Text Type:
You can refine your approach by using different multipliers for different types of content (e.g., natural language vs. code) based on a statistical sample. Your grouped-character approach is one idea; an alternative might be to count the total number of characters and adjust by a factor estimated from a corpus representative of the texts you’re processing. However, remember that token boundaries (which are determined by context, whitespace, punctuation, etc.) may make any universal heuristic less robust.
Hybrid Approach:
Consider a hybrid where you use your fast heuristic as a preliminary check and only call the precise tiktoken tokenizer when the estimated count is close to a model limit or when high precision is required.
Regarding Unicode characters not explicitly in the cl100k_base vocabulary:
OpenAI’s tokenization (as implemented in tiktoken) is based on a variant of Byte-Level Byte-Pair Encoding. It is designed to handle any Unicode input by decomposing characters that aren’t in the token dictionary into one or more sub-tokens. In other words, even if a Unicode character isn’t explicitly listed in the cl100k_base.tiktoken file, it still gets tokenized—it’s just that the resulting token(s) might be different from what you’d expect in a simple lookup. This ensures every Unicode character in an input will be represented, though depending on the character, it could count as more tokens than a common English word.
I hope this helps you weigh the trade-offs between speed and accuracy in token estimation!
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