Why does enforcing JSON output format return infinite newline characters with production data?

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I'm trying to force a JSON response using the parameter below, and it works well with a short example. However, when I test with production data (prompt_token = 2966), the response fills with repeated "\n \n \n \n" characters until the max token limit is reached. Without the response_format parameter, the response is acceptable even though it isn’t a valid JSON object.

I've also tested with a shorter user message and still encountered the issue. Could the use of '#' in the content be affecting the output?

Model: gpt-1106

usingAzure: True

To Reproduce

PYTHON
tsg = """
# TSG for debugging openai
## 1. install openai
### 1.1. install openai with pip
### 1.2. install openai with conda
## 2. import openai
### 2.1. import openai in python
### 2.2. import openai in jupyter notebook
## 3. use openai
### 3.1. use openai in python
### 3.2. use openai in jupyter notebook
"""
messages = [
                {
                    "role": "system",
                    "content": 
                        """
                        You are an expert of reading troubeshooting guidance.
                        The users will provide you a troubleshooting guide in markdown format, which consists of several steps.
                        You need to break down the document into steps based on the text semantics and markdown structure and return JSON format
                        Note that: (1) Ignore the document title if it does not indicate a step. (2) Only do text slicing from front to back, can't lose any content of the step. (3) Maintain the original text in task_description without any summarization or abbreviation. (4) Don't lose the prefix and serial number of the title displayed in the document. (5) If the step itself has a title in document, the task_title should use the original content.
                        You will respond with the list of steps as a JSON object. Here's an example of your output format: 
                        [{
                            "task_title": "",
                            "task_description": "",
                        },
                        {
                            "task_title": "",
                            "task_description": "",
                        }].
                        Here is an example of the input markdown document:
                            # Troubleshooting guide for buying a puppy
                            ## 1. know what puppy you want
                            ### 1.1. you could surf the internet to find the puppy you want
                            ### 1.2. visit friends who have puppies to see if you like them
                            ## 2. buy healthy puppies
                            ### 2.1. you could go to puppy selling websites to find healthy puppies, if you prefer buying puppies online, please go to step 3 for more information
                            ### 2.2. you could go to pet stores to find healthy puppies
                            ## 3. buy puppies online
                            here is a list of puppy selling websites: www.happydog.com, www.puppy.com, www.puppylove.com
                        Here is an example of the output json object:
                        [{
                            "task_title": "1. know what puppy you want",
                            "task_description": "### 1.1. you could surf the internet to find the puppy you want\n### 1.2. visit friends who have puppies to see if you like them"
                        },
                        {
                            "task_title": "2. buy healthy puppies",
                            "task_description": "### 2.1. you could go to puppy selling websites to find healthy puppies, if you prefer buying puppies online, please go to step 3 for more information\n### 2.2. you could go to pet stores to find healthy puppies"
                        },
                        {
                            "task_title": "3. buy puppies online",
                            "task_description": "here is a list of puppy selling websites: www.happydog.com, www.puppy.com, www.puppylove.com"
                        }
                        ]
                        """
                },
                {
                    "role": "user", 
                    "content": tsg
                }
            ]

response = llm.client.chat.completions.create(
            model = llm.engine,
            messages = messages,
            response_format={"type": "json_object"},
            temperature = 0,
        )

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Answer by StackOverflow TychoAI Agent • 25 days ago

Below is an explanation and some recommendations:

Explanation

When you set the parameter:

PYTHON
response_format={"type": "json_object"}

the model is forced to output a JSON object. If the model isn’t clearly instructed to produce strictly valid JSON, it may instead produce extraneous whitespace or nothing meaningful at all. In production your prompt (with prompt tokens around 2966) may hit issues such as:

Incomplete or Overlong Generation: The generation can hit the token limit (finish_reason “length”) if the instructions or output exceed what the model can produce, resulting in a long stream of newlines.
Lack of Explicit JSON Directive: Although your system message contains instructions and an example, it may not be “loud” enough for the model when handling longer inputs, especially under JSON mode. This forces the model to adhere strictly—even if that means only outputting whitespace.

Is the “#” the Issue?

Based on what we see, the markdown formatting (including hash symbols) should not be the problem. Markdown and JSON can coexist as long as the model is explicitly told to output valid JSON. The formatting markers like “#” are simply interpreted as plain text under JSON mode. In other words, the '#' characters don’t “break” the JSON conversion.

Recommendations

Increase Clarity in Your Instructions:
Even though your system prompt includes examples, add a direct instruction at the beginning such as:

"Produce only valid JSON as output — no extra characters or markdown."
This reinforces the requirement.
Review Token Limits:
With prompt_token values nearing 2966, it is possible that your generation doesn’t have sufficient room for the complete JSON response. Consider increasing the max_tokens parameter if it has not been explicitly set.
Test with Incremental Changes:
Try reducing the production data slightly or splitting the input into smaller chunks to see if the output starts working correctly. This could help identify if a token limit or context overlap is causing the trailing newlines.
Double-check Model Behavior on Azure:
Since you are using Azure and a model labeled “gpt-1106”, make sure this version supports the JSON mode behavior as documented. There are known cases (especially with JSON mode) where without a direct system instruction for JSON the model may output whitespace, even for shorter requests.

Example Revised System Message

You might update your system instruction like this:

PYTHON
{
    "role": "system",
    "content": """
        You are an expert in troubleshooting guidance.
        Extract the steps from the provided markdown and output ONLY a valid JSON object.
        Do not include any additional text, markdown formatting, or whitespace outside of the JSON.
        Follow this output format exactly:
        
        [{
            "task_title": "<original step title>",
            "task_description": "<full text for the step>"
        }]
        
        Process the markdown strictly from start to finish, keeping all content.
        """
}

By explicitly emphasizing “ONLY a valid JSON object,” you help guide the model while using JSON mode.

Summary

The issue is not caused by “#” characters.
It’s more likely due to strict JSON mode requirements along with token limit issues or unclear instructions for valid JSON output.
Refine your system prompt and consider token limits when using production data.

This should help you troubleshoot the issue with the JSON response.

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