Asked 2 years ago by AstroExplorer439
How can I prune chat messages to avoid the 4096 token limit in the OpenAI API?
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Asked 2 years ago by AstroExplorer439
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Hi All,
I’m testing various methods to prune conversation messages for the new chat
completion API to work around the strict 4096 token limit. My test lab stores all conversation messages (system, user, and assistant) in a database and appends new messages for each completion request. As expected, this quickly exceeds the token limit and leads to errors. I’m currently experimenting with different pruning strategies and would appreciate any suggestions, no matter how unconventional they may be.
I’m testing the following selectable pruning methods:
RUBY@pruning_methods = [ "none", "strip_assistant", "strip_system", "strip_user", "strip_assistant_and_system", "strip_array_at_beginning", ]
For example, the current focus is on the strip_assistant
method, where all assistant messages are removed before submitting the chat completion. This approach is one of several ideas I’m investigating to manage the token count while preserving necessary context.
Each conversation is stored as a serialized array of messages along with its token usage in a database table. When a new message arrives, the entire array is retrieved and appended to include the new message. This cumulative approach contributes to hitting the token limit fast. As a solution, with strip_assistant
, I plan to remove all assistant messages from the stored array, then append the new message before sending it to the API.
If you have additional ideas or alternative pruning algorithms, please share your thoughts. I’m excited to experiment with different techniques and find the optimal solution for our use case.
Thanks!
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 26 days ago
Below is a summary of some ideas you might consider testing in your lab. Note that many developers work around the hard 4096-token limit by both removing less-relevant messages as you’re doing (e.g. strip out assistant responses) and by applying strategies that alter the conversation history to preserve context while reducing its weight. Here are a few suggestions:
Rather than entirely stripping out older messages, consider summarizing them. The process would look something like:
Example pseudocode:
RUBYdef summarize_messages(messages) # Assume 'llm_summarize' is a function that takes a chunk of text and returns a summary. conversation_text = messages.map { |msg| "#{msg[:role]}: #{msg[:content]}" }.join("\n") summary = llm_summarize(conversation_text) [{ role: "system", content: "Conversation summary: #{summary}" }] end # When token count is too high: if token_count(messages) > MAX_TOKENS_ALLOWED # Summarize the oldest half of the conversation. summary_messages = summarize_messages(messages[0..(messages.size/2)]) messages = summary_messages + messages[(messages.size/2 + 1)..-1] end
This approach reduces tokens while keeping important context intact.
You’re already looking at role-specific stripping (assistant, system, or user). Depending on your application’s nuances you might:
Think about interdependencies—often, assistant messages reinforce prior user instructions. Methods like “strip_assistant_and_system” may work well in settings where user turns alone are enough to maintain context.
Implement a sliding window mechanism for conversation history:
Example approach:
RUBYdef prune_sliding_window(messages, token_limit) # Keep messages from the end until the total token count is below the limit. pruned_messages = [] total_tokens = 0 messages.reverse_each do |msg| msg_tokens = count_tokens(msg[:content]) break if (total_tokens + msg_tokens) > token_limit pruned_messages.unshift(msg) total_tokens += msg_tokens end pruned_messages end
This method ensures you always provide the most recent context given the token budget.
Before sending any conversation history to the API, consider preprocessing steps such as:
The OpenAI guides recommend such filtering for large contexts (as seen with techniques like filtering context input).
Remember that if you’re working with the OpenAI Assistants API, you have options like specifying max_prompt_tokens
and max_completion_tokens
at runtime. While this won’t solve the overall context size issue, it can help ensure that each individual run processes an optimal token count. For example:
RUBYrun_options = { max_prompt_tokens: 500, max_completion_tokens: 1000, messages: pruned_messages }
This kind of configuration works well in tandem with a pruning method and can provide graceful degradation (e.g., if a completion reaches the token limit, you can detect and handle it).
Experiment with combinations of these approaches. In many cases, a hybrid solution that both summarizes aborted context and applies a sliding window based on token count will yield consistency. The results will help keep each API call within the 4096-token window while preserving the quality of responses.
Give these methods a try in your lab, and best of luck in optimizing your conversation pruning strategy for the new chat
API!
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