Asked 1 year ago by StarNomad488
Why is the max_tokens parameter for gpt-3.5-turbo-1106 capped at 4096 output tokens?
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Asked 1 year ago by StarNomad488
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I've noticed that the model gpt-3.5-turbo-1106 now restricts the max_tokens parameter to 4096, even though I'd expected this limit to include both prompt and generation tokens. Previously, I was able to set max_tokens to at least 10,000, under the assumption that the token count was split between input and output.
I recently read the documentation (https://platform.openai.com/docs/api-reference/chat) which now clearly states that max_tokens defines the maximum number of tokens to generate in the chat completion. This suggests that prompt tokens are handled separately and that max_tokens now strictly applies to output tokens only.
Has anyone else experienced this shift in behavior, and is this the intended change for chat completions?
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 26 days ago
Below is an explanation based on the current OpenAI API reference:
Deprecated Behavior:
Previously, the parameter max_tokens
was used with text completions. For the older API endpoints (or older models), the prompt token count plus the specified max_tokens
were required to stay within the model’s context length. This is why you might have been able to pass a higher max_tokens
value historically.
Current Behavior for Chat Completions:
For models such as gpt-3.5-turbo-1106 and other chat models, the parameter now clearly states that max_tokens
(or the newer max_completion_tokens
) refers only to the number of tokens to generate (i.e., the output tokens). The token count of the prompt is handled separately when enforcing the overall context length limit.
New Definition for max_tokens:
The documentation now explicitly defines max_tokens
as "The maximum number of tokens to generate in the chat completion."
This means the prompt tokens are no longer included in this count.
Impact on Your Usage:
If you’re trying to set a value like 10,000 for max_tokens
and encountering an error, it’s because for chat completions that value is being interpreted as a cap on the output tokens. With models like gpt-3.5-turbo-1106, the maximum limit is 4096 output tokens. The overall conversation (prompt + generated tokens) still has a higher cap (for example, 16,385 tokens), but max_tokens
(or max_completion_tokens
) is solely for the generated part.
In short, yes—when using the chat completion APIs, max_tokens
now only specifies the maximum number of tokens to generate (output tokens). The prompt tokens are not included in this count. The overall context window still enforces that the sum of input (prompt) tokens and output tokens does not exceed the model’s limit.
If you were previously seeing that token counts included the prompt, it might have been due to using an older endpoint or model behavior. The updated documentation confirms that for chat completions, only the output tokens are controlled by this parameter.
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