Asked 1 month ago by UranianExplorer932
Why do str() and f-string yield different outputs for numpy.float32 values?
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Asked 1 month ago by UranianExplorer932
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PYTHONimport numpy as np number = np.float32(0.12345678) assert str(number) == "0.12345678" assert f"{number}" == "0.12345678359270096"
When converting a NumPy float (such as a numpy.float32
) to a string, the built-in str()
function and f-string formatting can produce different results due to their distinct handling of floating-point precision.
Using str()
: This method calls the object's custom __str__
method designed to provide a concise, human-readable representation. In our example, it returns "0.12345678", truncating the precision for clarity.
Using an f-string (f"{number}"
): F-strings invoke the object’s __format__
method, which in this case converts the numpy.float32
to a Python float, resulting in a longer, more precise string representation. This is why you see "0.12345678359270096" with f-string formatting.
This difference stems from the underlying implementation in NumPy's scalar types, where __str__
is optimized for brevity and __format__
provides the full precision of the floating-point representation.
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 1 month ago
Below is an explanation in markdown:
When converting a NumPy float scalar (such as np.float32
) to a string, the built-in str()
and f-string methods use different formatting rules:
str()
Function:
The str()
function for a NumPy float calls its custom __str__
method. This method is designed to return a concise, human-readable representation of the number. In the given example, this means rounding or formatting the value so that you'll see "0.12345678"
, which may be suitable for display purposes.
F-string (f"{number}"
):
An f-string conversion normally invokes the __format__
method of the object. For NumPy scalars like np.float32
, this method returns a more precise representation of the underlying floating-point value. As a result, more digits are shown (in this case, "0.12345678359270096"
), reflecting the true binary floating-point approximation.
PYTHONimport numpy as np number = np.float32(0.12345678) # Using the built-in str() function print(str(number)) # Output: "0.12345678" # Using an f-string print(f"{number}") # Output: "0.12345678359270096"
str()
: Provides a simplified, rounded representation.This behavior is tied to NumPy's implementation of scalar representation and helps avoid potential confusion with native Python scalars.
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Answer by SupernovaEnvoy998 • 2 months ago
As pointed out in the comments, the first part of the answer would be to point out that f-string representations are often different from str()
outcomes.
However, that leaves the question "why does __format__
result in more digits being rendered than __str__
for a numpy.float32
?"
Have a look at this:
PYTHONimport numpy as np x = np.float32(0.12345678) print('np.float32 __str__ method return value:', x.__str__()) print('np.float32 __repr__ method return value:', x.__repr__()) print('np.float32 __format__ method return value with "f":', x.__format__('f')) print('np.float32 formatted by an f-string:', f'{x}') print('float __str__ method return value:', float(x).__str__()) print('float __repr__ method return value:', float(x).__repr__()) print('float __format__ method return value with "f":', float(x).__format__('f')) print('float formatted by an f-string:', f'{float(x)}')
Output:
BASHnp.float32 __str__ method return value: 0.12345678 np.float32 __repr__ method return value: 0.12345678 np.float32 __format__ method return value with "f": 0.123457 np.float32 formatted by an f-string: 0.12345678359270096 float __str__ method return value: 0.12345678359270096 float __repr__ method return value: 0.12345678359270096 float __format__ method return value with "f": 0.123457 float formatted by an f-string: 0.12345678359270096
It's apparent that printing a numpy.float32
through an f-string actually prints the float
conversion of that numpy.float32
.
The f-string calls .__format__
on the numpy.float32
, which first converts the value of x
to a Python float
and then the .__str__
is called on float
normally, giving you its string representation, instead of that of the numpy.float32
. (this answers the question, the below just provides some extra background)
The reason for all the extra digits that you didn't define are of course the result of floating point imprecision. Floats can only approximate specific real numbers, and when you don't specifically track the precision, you end up with representations of the closest value they can represent. 0.12345678
can't be the exact value of a float
.
Edit: Note that user @markransom pointed out another interesting quirk you may run into when using Python 2, namely that __str__
and __repr__
would give different results Why does str(float) return more digits in Python 3 than Python 2?
Also, in case you are wondering what is going on with floats in detail, have a look at this:
PYTHONimport struct import math x = 0.12345678 # IEEE 754 binary representation of the float binary = struct.unpack('!Q', struct.pack('!d', x))[0] # Extract sign, exponent, and mantissa sign = (binary >> 63) & 0x1 exponent = ((binary >> 52) & 0x7FF) - 1023 # Unbias the exponent mantissa = binary & ((1 << 52) - 1) # Lower 52 bits # Reconstruct the value, and the next possible value value = (-1)**sign * (1 + mantissa / 2**52) * 2**exponent prev_value = (-1)**sign * (1 + (mantissa-1) / 2**52) * 2**exponent print(math.isclose(x, value, rel_tol=1e-15)) # True if reconstructed correctly print(sign, exponent, mantissa, f'{mantissa:b}') # Show sign, exponent, and mantissa (and in binary) print(f'{value:.56f}') # Show exact value stored in float print(f'{prev_value:.56f}')
Output
BASHTrue 0 -4 4392398907099285 1111100110101101110100010000100100011100100010010101 0.12345678000000000207325712153760832734405994415283203125 0.12345677999999998819546931372315157204866409301757812500
This shows you the size difference for the ULP (Unit in Last Place), starting with the number you gave and the closest smaller number. Those two are the closest you can get to 0.12345678
with a float
.
And finally, note that a numpy.float32
uses a different (smaller) representation, which has different limitations, which explains why you end up with a different representation - which is farther from the value than the closest Python can get.
You can see the value with:
PYTHONprint('np.float32 formatted by an f-string with "g":', f'{x:.27g}')
Output:
BASH0.123456783592700958251953125
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