Asked 1 month ago by MartianGuardian269
How do I debug and correct excessive token counts in my GPT-4 chatbot inputs?
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Asked 1 month ago by MartianGuardian269
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My chatbot built on OpenAI's GPT-4 model is reporting an excessive number of input tokens. The token count calculated using tiktoken is much lower than what the callbacks report. I need advice on how to debug and reduce the token usage.
Below is an example of my input and its token count calculation:
PYTHONimport tiktoken # Use the tokenizer for your model (e.g., "gpt-4") tokenizer = tiktoken.encoding_for_model("gpt-4") input_text = """[{ 'role': 'system', 'content': "Answer in the question's language, keeping personal data in its original language if provided in the context." }, { 'role': 'system', 'content': "Answer strictly based on the provided context. If a 'for more visit' link is present in the context, include it in your response. If multiple persons match the query, provide the requested information for all." }, { 'role': 'system', 'content': 'تحديث بيانات الموظفين عن طريق رفع ملف مقيم مقيم النسخة العربية : نموذج ملف مقيم النسخة الإنجليزية: أهمية رفع ملف مقيم على النظام : - عند رفع الملف بنسخته العربية Ar سيتم تحديث الملعلومات التالية في ملف الموظف الشخصي : 1- الإسم الكامل (عربي) 2- تفاصيل الهوية/ الإقامة 3- تفاصيل جواز السفر 4- المسمى الوظيفي في الاقامة - عربي - عند رفع الملف بنسخته الإنجليزية En سيتم تحديث الملعلومات التالية في ملف الموظف الشخصي : 1- الإسم الكامل (إنجليزي) 2- تفاصيل الهوية/ الإقامة 3- تفاصيل جواز السفر 4- المسمى الوظيفي في الاقامة - إنجليزي كيف يتم الحصول على نسخة ملف مقيم ؟ في حال وجود إشتراك ساري لدى المنشأة في منصة مقيم ، عن طريق تسجيل الدخول لحساب المنشأة على منصة بوابة مقيم من قبل صاحب الصلاحية ، ثم التوجه لصفحة التقارير > المقيمين > المقيمين النشطين > إنشاء التقرير > تصدير إلى إكسل. تنويه : للحصول على ملف مقيم بالنسخة الإنجليزية ، عن طريق تغيير واجهة النظام لخدمة مقيم للغة الإنجليزية وباتباع نفس الخطوات السابقة. خطوات رفع ملف مقيم على نظام جسر : عن طريق قيام الأدمن بالذهاب إلى صفحة الإعدادات >إعدادات الشركة > قوالب تحديث البينات > قسم للمزيد اضغط الرابط: https://jisr.zendesk.com/hc/ar-sa/articles/13793570939409' }, { 'role': 'system', 'content': 'user input:' }, { 'role': 'user', 'content': 'Who is my annual salary?' }]""" token_count = len(tokenizer.encode(input_text)) print(f"Token count: {token_count}") >> Token count: 871
However, the callback reports a token count of 32,504 → 15 (∑ 32,519). Below is the part of my code using callbacks to measure token consumption:
PYTHON# use callbacks to measure token consumption with get_openai_callback() as cb: response = LLM_Model.invoke(messages) logger.info(f"LLM input= {messages}") # Extract and return the response text return response.content, cb
Here is my model configuration:
PYTHON# Set up OpenAI model using LangChain's wrapper LLM_Model = ChatOpenAI(model= LLM_MODEL, api_key= OPENAI_API_KEY, temperature=0.3, max_tokens=1000, timeout=None, max_retries=2 )
I suspect the root of the token discrepancy is due to differences in how the raw text is tokenized versus how chat message metadata (roles, formatting, etc.) are accounted for in the API format. Any suggestions on how to debug this further and reduce unnecessary token overhead are appreciated.
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 1 month ago
Below are some steps and explanations to help you understand why the token count differs and how to debug and fix the issue.
Chat Message Overhead:
When using Chat-based models (like GPT-4 variants), each message is not just the raw text. The API adds overhead tokens for roles, formatting, and metadata. For example, each message may get extra tokens for the role (system, user, or assistant) plus tokens for start/end markers. Simply tokenizing the raw string (using tiktoken on a JSON-like string) will not include these extra tokens.
Message vs. String Representation:
In your example, you manually encode a string representation. In contrast, LangChain’s ChatOpenAI transforms your list of message dictionaries into a structured format that adds additional tokens.
Use a Chat-Aware Token Counter:
Instead of tokenizing the entire string as one block, use a token counter that mimics how ChatOpenAI calculates tokens. LangChain provides a custom counter (like the tiktoken_counter
function) that iterates over each message (handling roles, content, and any names). This method will yield a count closer to what the model reports via the callback.
Inspect the Message Formatting:
Verify that the messages you’re sending to the model are not inadvertently being double-serialized or include extra formatting. Log the final list of messages before passing it into LLM_Model.invoke(messages)
. This lets you see if additional content or metadata is being included.
Compare with API Response:
Use the get_openai_callback output to compare token usages for different call types (e.g., single vs. streaming calls). In some cases with legacy models and streaming, the tokens might not be updated dynamically, which could lead to discrepancies in the reported count.
Implement Proper Token Counters:
Use a dedicated utility (like the one in the LangChain docs) that walks through each message and applies the proper rules for chat messages. For example, a function that looks roughly like the following:
PYTHONdef tiktoken_counter(messages: List[BaseMessage]) -> int: # Start with the extra tokens for priming the assistant response num_tokens = 3 # For example, extra tokens per API call tokens_per_message = 3 # tokens added per message tokens_per_name = 1 # extra tokens if a name is present for msg in messages: if isinstance(msg, HumanMessage): role = "user" elif isinstance(msg, AIMessage): role = "assistant" elif isinstance(msg, SystemMessage): role = "system" else: raise ValueError(f"Unsupported message type: {msg.__class__}") num_tokens += tokens_per_message num_tokens += len(tokenizer.encode(role)) num_tokens += len(tokenizer.encode(msg.content)) # If the message includes a 'name' field, adjust accordingly if hasattr(msg, "name") and msg.name: num_tokens += tokens_per_name + len(tokenizer.encode(msg.name)) return num_tokens
Adjust the numbers (like the extra tokens per message) based on the actual API’s formatting rules documented by OpenAI.
Trim and Optimize Your Messages:
If your conversation history is long or includes redundant information (e.g., multiple system messages), consider trimming the context to keep the total tokens within limits. The LangChain documentation contains further guidance on trimming messages.
Double-Check Model Configurations:
Confirm that you are using the right model and tokenizer. Token counts for “gpt-4” and “gpt-4o” may differ if they have different internal formatting. Also, verify your LangChain configuration to ensure there isn’t an additional serialization layer adding extra tokens.
The token count discrepancy arises because the raw text tokenization (using tiktoken on a JSON-like string) does not match the chat format’s internal structure used by the model. By using a chat-aware token counter, logging the final messages before the API call, and trimming any unnecessary context, you can both debug and mitigate the excessive token usage reported by your callback.
These steps should help you align the token count more closely with what the OpenAI API actually sees and reduce unexpected token overhead in your chatbot.
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