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Asked 1 month ago by MartianCosmonaut658

What are the key differences between Django managers and proxy models?

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I'm exploring Django's proxy models (see proxy models) and find myself confused about when to use them over managers (see managers).

I understand that both tools can modify or encapsulate model behavior, but are they interchangeable? Can we implement the same functionality using either proxy models or managers, or do they each serve distinct purposes?

I'm looking for clarification on the differences in their roles and when one might be more appropriate than the other.

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Answer by StackOverflow TychoAI Agent • 1 month ago

Proxy models and managers serve different purposes, and while you can use a manager to encapsulate querying logic, they aren't interchangeable. Here’s a breakdown of their differences and when each might be used:

Proxy Models

Purpose:
Proxy models let you change or extend the Python-level behavior of a model without modifying its database schema. By subclassing an existing model as a proxy, you can add new methods, change default ordering, or override existing behaviors while still using the same underlying database table.
When to Use:
Use a proxy model when you need:
- Customized behavior or APIs for specific use-cases.
- A different representation of the same data in parts of your application (for example, for distinct admin views).
- To override methods or add instance-level logic that is specific to a particular context, without duplicating database structures.
Example Use-Case:
You might have a User model and want an ActiveUser proxy model that only deals with users that are active, but also provides additional methods that are meaningful only for active users.

Managers

Purpose:
Managers are used to encapsulate query logic at the database level. They let you define custom query methods (or even replace the default manager) to alter the way queries are constructed and objects are retrieved from the database.
When to Use:
Use a manager when you need:
- Custom methods that return QuerySets (e.g., active(), recent()).
- To modify the default QuerySet (e.g., filtering out inactive records by default).
- A clear, reusable way to encapsulate common query patterns or pre-filtered query sets.
Example Use-Case:
If you want a User.objects.active() method that returns only active users, a manager is the appropriate tool. This keeps query logic out of the model's methods and in a dedicated component.

Summary of Differences

Level of Abstraction:
- Proxy models operate at the ORM model layer (affecting instance behavior).
- Managers operate at the QuerySet layer (affecting how you retrieve objects).
Use-Case Focus:
- Proxy models enable you to create a subclass with specialized methods, properties, or behaviors tied to a different conceptual entity (even though the underlying schema is the same).
- Managers provide a way to centralize and reuse query logic in a clear and consistent way.

Conclusion

While both proxy models and managers can be used to filter or alter how you work with a model, they address different parts of the application:

Use proxy models when you need to change behavior or add new methods on the model instances without changing the database schema.
Use managers when the goal is to provide custom query interfaces and filtering logic.

They complement each other rather than compete, and choosing one over the other depends on whether your changes are at the instance behavior level or the query level.

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Answer by MercurialObserver886 • 1 month ago

The idea is that you can implement logic on the model, and thus change how model instances behave.

In other words, you could use:

PYTHON
class User(models.Model):
    first_name = models.CharField(max_length=128)
    last_name = models.CharField(max_length=128)

    def __str__(self):
        return f'{self.first_name} {self.last_name}'


class ReverseUser(User):
    class Meta:
        proxy = True

    def __str__(self):
        return f'{self.last_name} {self.first_name}'

so ReverseUser.objects.all() and User.objects.all() target the same database, essentially make the same query, but will present here users in a different way if you use str(…) on them.

A manager deals with what to retrieve whereas a (proxy) model deals with what to do with the (retrieved) data.

That being said, proxy models are rather rare. I think I have encounter them perhaps ~10-20 times., since it often does not make that much sense to start re-defining what to do with data. A use-case that I found interesting was that you can usually register a model only once for a ModelAdmin [Django-doc], but if you want to present the same records in multiple ModelAdmins, for example because some people are allowed to edit certain fields, or see others, that is quite complicated. A proxy model can be used then to present the same data in different model admins.

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Answer by AstroStargazer703 • 1 month ago

Django managers are classes that manage the database query operations on a particular model.
Django model manager

Proxy models allow you to create a new model that inherits from an existing model but does not create a new database table.
proxy model

Let me give you an example:

PYTHON
class Book(models.Model):
    title = models.CharField(max_length=100)
    author = models.CharField(max_length=100)
    published_date = models.DateField()
    is_downloadable = models.BooleanField(default=True)

If this is your model

manager:

PYTHON
class BookMnanger(models.Manager):
    def by_link(self):
        return self.filter(is_downloadable=True)

and you new manager:

PYTHON
class Book(models.Model):
    title = models.CharField(max_length=100)
    author = models.CharField(max_length=100)
    published_date = models.DateField()
    is_downloadable = models.BooleanField(default=True)
    # your new manager should register to your model
    downloading = BookMnanger()

now, your new custom manager can work as below:

PYTHON
my_books = Book.downloading.all()
print(my_books)

but the proxy:

PYTHON
class BookProxy(Book):
    class Meta:
        proxy = True

    def special_method(self):
        return f"{self.title} by {self.author}, published on {self.published_date}"

and your proxy can work like this:

PYTHON
book = BookProxy.objects.first() 
print(book.special_method())

proxies are the way to change behavior of your model but, managers will change your specific queries

I can give you more link about them, if you need?

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