Asked 1 month ago by GalacticNavigator203
How can I align split violin plots with overlaid box plots in Seaborn?
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Asked 1 month ago by GalacticNavigator203
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I want to create split violin plots (i.e. paired KDE plots on opposite sides) using Seaborn to compare distributions, and then overlay custom box plots on top (as shown in this tutorial: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/aligning-violin-plots-with-dodged-box-plots/).
I followed the docs (https://seaborn.pydata.org/generated/seaborn.violinplot.html), but I encounter an alignment issue where the middle of the split violins is not aligned with the X-axis labels. This misalignment also affects box plots, though by a different magnitude. (This happens whether the 'column' variable is numeric or a string.)
Below is a minimal reproducible example with only split violins:
PYTHONimport numpy as np import pandas as pd from matplotlib import pyplot as plt import seaborn as sns sns.set_theme() data1 = np.random.normal(0, 1, 1000) data2 = np.random.normal(1, 2, 1000) data = pd.concat( [ pd.DataFrame({"column": "1", "data1": data1, "data2": data2}), pd.DataFrame({"column": "2", "data3": data2, "data4": data1}), ], axis="rows", ) def mkplot(): fig, violin_ax = plt.subplots() sns.violinplot( data=data.melt(id_vars="column"), y="value", split=True, hue="variable", x="column", ax=violin_ax, palette="Paired", bw_method="silverman", inner=None, ) plt.show() mkplot()
This produces split violins that are misaligned with the X-axis labels:
mis-aligned violins
An alternative function using box plots overlaid on the violins is shown below:
PYTHONdef mkplot2(): fig, violin_ax = plt.subplots() sns.violinplot( data=data.melt(id_vars="column"), y="value", split=True, hue="variable", x="column", ax=violin_ax, palette="Paired", bw_method="silverman", inner=None, ) sns.boxplot( data=data.melt(id_vars="column"), y="value", hue="variable", x="column", ax=violin_ax, palette="Paired", width=0.3, flierprops={"marker": "o", "markersize": 3}, legend=False, dodge=True, ) plt.show() mkplot2()
How can I solve this alignment issue?
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Answer by TychoAI Agent • 1 month ago
Below is an explanation and a couple of potential solutions.
When you set split=True, Seaborn divides each category’s violin into two halves (one for each hue level) by internally adjusting the width and positions. The violin positioning uses a “native width” (computed from your categorical or numeric x values) and then applies offsets to show the split. Box plots, however, rely on the dodge parameter (and a different positioning logic) to align with the corresponding category values. Because these two positioning mechanisms are not exactly the same, you see a misalignment when overlaying box plots on split violins.
A couple of options can help remedy the alignment issue:
Enable Native Scaling for the Violins
When plotting violin plots that use split violins, you can set the parameter
native_scale=True
. This makes the violins respect the native width of your x variables. For example:
PYTHONsns.violinplot( data=data.melt(id_vars="column"), x="column", y="value", hue="variable", split=True, palette="Paired", bw_method="silverman", inner=None, native_scale=True # ensures the violins use the native x-axis spacing )
Ensure Consistent Dodge/Width Settings
When overlaying, make sure the dodge settings and widths used for the box plots match those of the violins. Since the violin internally computes its positioning (without any explicit dodge when split=True) you may need to manually adjust the dodge offset in the box plot call so it “fits” over the split violins. For example, you can try:
PYTHONsns.boxplot( data=data.melt(id_vars="column"), x="column", y="value", hue="variable", palette="Paired", width=0.3, flierprops={"marker": "o", "markersize": 3}, dodge=True # this dodge should match how the violins offset hue values )
If the box plots are still misaligned, you may consider a manual shift by modifying the position values (using the positions provided by the categorical encoder) so that they overlay exactly on top of the violins.
Here’s a revised version of your second example (with both violin and box plots) that attempts to align the two:
PYTHONimport numpy as np import pandas as pd from matplotlib import pyplot as plt import seaborn as sns sns.set_theme() data1 = np.random.normal(0, 1, 1000) data2 = np.random.normal(1, 2, 1000) data = pd.concat( [ pd.DataFrame({"column": "1", "data1": data1, "data2": data2}), pd.DataFrame({"column": "2", "data3": data2, "data4": data1}), ], axis="rows", ) # Melt the data for easier plotting melted = data.melt(id_vars="column") def mkplot_aligned(): fig, ax = plt.subplots() # Draw the split violin plot with native_scale enabled sns.violinplot( data=melted, x="column", y="value", hue="variable", split=True, palette="Paired", bw_method="silverman", inner=None, native_scale=True, # use native scaling to help with alignment ax=ax, ) # Overlay the box plots with consistent dodge and width parameters sns.boxplot( data=melted, x="column", y="value", hue="variable", palette="Paired", width=0.3, flierprops={"marker": "o", "markersize": 3}, dodge=True, ax=ax, legend=False, ) plt.show() mkplot_aligned()
Because the violin plot’s split behavior and the box plot's dodge positioning come from two separate internal routines, there may be scenarios where manual adjustment is needed. If the above does not perfectly align the box plots on your system (or if you require further fine-tuning), consider calculating the positional offsets (or explore using the same dodge value for both) to force a manual alignment.
This should help address the misalignment issue you’re experiencing.
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Answer by MeteoricPilot069 • 1 month ago
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Answer by GalacticScientist423 • 1 month ago
The issue is due to the NaNs that you have after melting. This makes 4 groups and thus the violins are shifted to account for those.
You could plot the groups independently:
PYTHONdata_flat = data.melt('column').dropna(subset='value') violin_ax = plt.subplot() pal = sns.color_palette('Paired') for i, (name, g) in enumerate(data_flat.groupby('column')): sns.violinplot( data=g, y='value', split=True, hue='variable', x='column', ax=violin_ax, palette=pal[2*i:2*i+2], bw_method='silverman', inner=None, )
Output:
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